Comments on: The New Lifeless, Limp Bible (TNLLB) http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/the-new-lifeless-limp-bible-tnllb Tue, 07 Feb 2012 07:11:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Dan http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/the-new-lifeless-limp-bible-tnllb/comment-page-1#comment-3889 Dan Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:36:17 +0000 http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/?p=733#comment-3889 1. Try the ESV Literary Study Bible (Crossway, L Ryken & P G Ryken, ed.), it offers only lead-in commentary on the upcoming text, not irrelevant stuff. I'm doing the M'Cheyne reading schedule on a 2-year plan using this particular edition of the Bible, and have found it to be beneficial. 2. You want graphic? Read Judges 3, the story of Ehud and Eglon. I found the ESV in its "essentially literal" translation to be more graphic than the NIV. Reading in bed at night, I thought to myself, "Did I just read that?!" It is no wonder that some less-literal versions scrub the details a little. Judges 4 was a good follow-up. 3. John, another good book offering perspective on your post (more in regard to your description of how Americans portray Jesus than the Bible, but also containing a good section discussing the [Thomas] "Jefferson Bible") is Stephen J. Nichols' "Jesus Made in America: A Cultural History from the Puritans to the Passion of the Christ". I admittedly skipped parts of it during my library loan, but it does illustrate through our nation's history how Americans have attempted to fashion Jesus in their image. Nichols approaches this topic with an often wry sense of humor as he proceeds through the centuries. For example, I took special interest in his handling of Contemporary Christian Music, as I'm a music fan but have never quite been able to embrace CCM. He pokes more than a little fun at what he calls "Jesus is my boyfriend" types of lyrics. 1. Try the ESV Literary Study Bible (Crossway, L Ryken & P G Ryken, ed.), it offers only lead-in commentary on the upcoming text, not irrelevant stuff. I’m doing the M’Cheyne reading schedule on a 2-year plan using this particular edition of the Bible, and have found it to be beneficial.
2. You want graphic? Read Judges 3, the story of Ehud and Eglon. I found the ESV in its “essentially literal” translation to be more graphic than the NIV. Reading in bed at night, I thought to myself, “Did I just read that?!” It is no wonder that some less-literal versions scrub the details a little. Judges 4 was a good follow-up.
3. John, another good book offering perspective on your post (more in regard to your description of how Americans portray Jesus than the Bible, but also containing a good section discussing the [Thomas] “Jefferson Bible”) is Stephen J. Nichols’ “Jesus Made in America: A Cultural History from the Puritans to the Passion of the Christ”. I admittedly skipped parts of it during my library loan, but it does illustrate through our nation’s history how Americans have attempted to fashion Jesus in their image. Nichols approaches this topic with an often wry sense of humor as he proceeds through the centuries. For example, I took special interest in his handling of Contemporary Christian Music, as I’m a music fan but have never quite been able to embrace CCM. He pokes more than a little fun at what he calls “Jesus is my boyfriend” types of lyrics.

]]> By: Re: The New Lifeless, Limp Bible (TNLLB) | Christ Speak http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/the-new-lifeless-limp-bible-tnllb/comment-page-1#comment-3874 Re: The New Lifeless, Limp Bible (TNLLB) | Christ Speak Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:58:46 +0000 http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/?p=733#comment-3874 [...] The New Lifeless, Limp Bible (TNLLB) [...] [...] The New Lifeless, Limp Bible (TNLLB) [...]

]]> By: ChristSpeak http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/the-new-lifeless-limp-bible-tnllb/comment-page-1#comment-3873 ChristSpeak Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:54:24 +0000 http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/?p=733#comment-3873 This was a really cool post -- I think I'm going to make a post to your post, you said it better than I could re-say it :) This was a really cool post — I think I’m going to make a post to your post, you said it better than I could re-say it :)

]]> By: stephen http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/the-new-lifeless-limp-bible-tnllb/comment-page-1#comment-3785 stephen Tue, 26 May 2009 20:26:44 +0000 http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/?p=733#comment-3785 Interesting post John, but I have to say I have a major disagreement with your exegesis of American B&W sitcoms. The Bible is obviously explained by the Andy Griffith Show, not Leave It To Beaver. :) http://www.firstbaptistathens.org/article136328.htm Interesting post John, but I have to say I have a major disagreement with your exegesis of American B&W sitcoms. The Bible is obviously explained by the Andy Griffith Show, not Leave It To Beaver. :)

http://www.firstbaptistathens.org/article136328.htm

]]> By: John http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/the-new-lifeless-limp-bible-tnllb/comment-page-1#comment-3783 John Tue, 26 May 2009 11:20:13 +0000 http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/?p=733#comment-3783 David, I appreciate the spiritual direction you offer. IMO the motivation for "feed me, feed me" is the old vice of sloth. It is a good feeling to have people depend on you for "feeding," but it handicaps both pastor and people in the long run. "Sheep need to be fed. Disciples feed themselves" wrote Bruce Wilkerson. David,
I appreciate the spiritual direction you offer. IMO the motivation for “feed me, feed me” is the old vice of sloth. It is a good feeling to have people depend on you for “feeding,” but it handicaps both pastor and people in the long run. “Sheep need to be fed. Disciples feed themselves” wrote Bruce Wilkerson.

]]> By: David http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/the-new-lifeless-limp-bible-tnllb/comment-page-1#comment-3782 David Mon, 25 May 2009 23:13:50 +0000 http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/?p=733#comment-3782 Thanks, I figured someone would do this--so now I will link back to the new pic. I guess as someone involved in spiritual formation/direction, I like to hear the cries, "pastor, feed me, feed me." They show a longing that is there for God, a longing for transcendence, a hunger and thirst for the kingdom of God. Or, in my case, a discovery of my desperate need for God. As Christian leaders, we need to affirm these longings for God but resist giving functional, superficial answers found in more Bible knowledge that merely puffs up and further alienates us from the world that is even more hungry than us. I guess it is too difficult for some to say that this longing you have is for God Almighty and He is longing for a relationship of intimacy with you. Wait on him, listen, read and listen, expecting him to speak to you. There is a holy mystery here and yet it is one well worth the investment of your time and life. Don't miss it. Let me tell you how God is speaking to me this week. Let me suggest some places you can go and some practices you might try that will make it more likely for you to hear him speak to you. God is trying to communicate to us all the time--sometimes, it may even be through my sermon! Thanks, I figured someone would do this–so now I will link back to the new pic. I guess as someone involved in spiritual formation/direction, I like to hear the cries, “pastor, feed me, feed me.” They show a longing that is there for God, a longing for transcendence, a hunger and thirst for the kingdom of God. Or, in my case, a discovery of my desperate need for God.

As Christian leaders, we need to affirm these longings for God but resist giving functional, superficial answers found in more Bible knowledge that merely puffs up and further alienates us from the world that is even more hungry than us. I guess it is too difficult for some to say that this longing you have is for God Almighty and He is longing for a relationship of intimacy with you. Wait on him, listen, read and listen, expecting him to speak to you. There is a holy mystery here and yet it is one well worth the investment of your time and life. Don’t miss it. Let me tell you how God is speaking to me this week. Let me suggest some places you can go and some practices you might try that will make it more likely for you to hear him speak to you. God is trying to communicate to us all the time–sometimes, it may even be through my sermon!

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