Comments on: Pain Kissed Me http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/pain-kissed-me Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:02:24 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: John http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/pain-kissed-me/comment-page-1#comment-2263 John Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:30:59 +0000 http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/pain-kissed-me#comment-2263 Wes, I was with some friends yesterday and we explored the absence of pain and suffering in the communal life of the church----people usually suffer in silence. A triumphalistic gospel denigrates the honesty and anguish of many of the biblical laments. Our culture obessed with the therapeutic, equates pain as something horribly wrong. We discussed the very idea of "tension" (which you mention) as critical to a fully-embodied Christian spirituality. Wes,
I was with some friends yesterday and we explored the absence of pain and suffering in the communal life of the church—-people usually suffer in silence. A triumphalistic gospel denigrates the honesty and anguish of many of the biblical laments. Our culture obessed with the therapeutic, equates pain as something horribly wrong. We discussed the very idea of “tension” (which you mention) as critical to a fully-embodied Christian spirituality.

]]> By: John http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/pain-kissed-me/comment-page-1#comment-2262 John Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:27:11 +0000 http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/pain-kissed-me#comment-2262 Danny, Thanks for your kind words. I enjoyed reading the prayer of St. Athanasius over at "Community of the Risen." God bless you. I linked to you site. Danny,
Thanks for your kind words. I enjoyed reading the prayer of St. Athanasius over at “Community of the Risen.” God bless you.
I linked to you site.

]]> By: Wes Ellis http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/pain-kissed-me/comment-page-1#comment-2261 Wes Ellis Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:12:53 +0000 http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/pain-kissed-me#comment-2261 John, I have been contemplating suffering and joy, where they meet in the Christian life. The more I consider suffering and joy- cross and resurrection- the more I am inclined to think that the Christian life is where all the tensions of life come together and produce something undeniably good. Solidarity, for example, is intrinsically joyous and intrinsically suffering... if we are joined with the right people (who might actually be the wrong people). This poetic language is the only language which is close to sufficient for such a conversation. It is right to associate this poem with the Psalms. Beautiful! John,
I have been contemplating suffering and joy, where they meet in the Christian life. The more I consider suffering and joy- cross and resurrection- the more I am inclined to think that the Christian life is where all the tensions of life come together and produce something undeniably good. Solidarity, for example, is intrinsically joyous and intrinsically suffering… if we are joined with the right people (who might actually be the wrong people).
This poetic language is the only language which is close to sufficient for such a conversation. It is right to associate this poem with the Psalms. Beautiful!

]]> By: Danny http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/pain-kissed-me/comment-page-1#comment-2260 Danny Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:16:17 +0000 http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/pain-kissed-me#comment-2260 Great Poem, John. Thanks for sharing it. Great Poem, John.
Thanks for sharing it.

]]> By: John http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/pain-kissed-me/comment-page-1#comment-2259 John Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:01:22 +0000 http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/pain-kissed-me#comment-2259 Jeremy, I am glad you felt the progression. Did you note the movement from private, individual pain into the valley of many voices (i.e., community)? Thanks for the affirmation. Jeremy,
I am glad you felt the progression. Did you note the movement from private, individual pain into the valley of many voices (i.e., community)? Thanks for the affirmation.

]]> By: jeremy bouma http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/pain-kissed-me/comment-page-1#comment-2258 jeremy bouma Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:57:47 +0000 http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/pain-kissed-me#comment-2258 i love how the poem progresses from kissing to embracing to taking...an interesting progression of pain, captured in your masterful style, john! thanks for this, -jeremy i love how the poem progresses from kissing to embracing to taking…an interesting progression of pain, captured in your masterful style, john!

thanks for this,
-jeremy

]]> By: John http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/pain-kissed-me/comment-page-1#comment-2256 John Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:45:29 +0000 http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/pain-kissed-me#comment-2256 Stephanie, Wow, thank you. To be associated with the poet David is an honor. Bless you! Stephanie,

Wow, thank you. To be associated with the poet David is an honor. Bless you!

]]> By: Stephanie http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/pain-kissed-me/comment-page-1#comment-2255 Stephanie Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:37:25 +0000 http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/pain-kissed-me#comment-2255 If David was a man after God's heart, the same could be said of you as well. This poem brings up the same melancholy passion that I read in the psalms. If David was a man after God’s heart, the same could be said of you as well. This poem brings up the same melancholy passion that I read in the psalms.

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